[00:20:33] <palmerev> Mac users: is there a way to avoid using 'sudo' to pip install things system-wide? Does 'pip install --user' work like it does on linux?
[00:21:09] <ronny> palmerev: depends on the python build
[00:21:51] <palmerev> What's the recommended way to install pip and virtualenv on Mac?
[00:22:45] <palmerev> Trying to avoid sudo if possible
[02:58:46] <elarson> palmerev: fwiw, I'm pretty sure I use homebrew to install pip and python and immediately pip install --upgrade pip. after that I use pip with sudo -H pip install $package, but honestly it is pretty rare. I typically use a virtualenv for everything I work on
[06:52:36] <tdsmith> don't sudo pip is always good advice, on os x as well
[08:01:36] <[Tritium]> tdsmith: as a native english speaker i needed to parse that twice
[08:01:53] <[Tritium]> "sudo pip is never a good idea, even on os x"