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[02:21:23] <krc4267> Hey all, I'm trying to install something using pip on windows. When I use python -m pip install <x>, it's saying "invalid syntax" and pointing at pip. What am I doing wrong?

[05:02:52] <utek> krc4267: using just pip install <x> is not working?

[07:13:54] <tdsmith> krc4267: hard to say; can you capture the full error message and pastebin it?

[12:09:03] <ravenx> everytime i pip install something it writes something strange directory in /tmp/pip-123412321

[12:09:08] <ravenx> how can i tell pip not to do that?

[12:17:50] <Wooble> ravenx: as far as I can tell from the docs, those should be automatically cleaned up unless you pass the --no-clean option. What version of pip do you have?

[12:31:09] <ravenx> Wooble: let me see, hang on

[12:31:49] <ravenx> Wooble: yikes, it looks like pip 1.1

[12:37:41] <mcepl> could anybody explain me why I cannot submit new version of m2crypto to PypI https://mcepl.fedorapeople.org/tmp/typescript.txt and what should I do?

[12:40:18] <Wooble> was ssh.pypi.python.org ever a thing? :/

[12:41:08] <Wooble> well, I guess 6 google results say "yes". :/

[12:41:11] <mcepl> Wooble: I don't know, I haven't add it there.

[12:41:31] <mcepl> I have installed pypissh in hope that it would help, but it didn't.

[12:41:43] <Wooble> mcepl: I'd recommend uploading packages using twine instead.

[12:42:14] <Wooble> (probably to pypi.io instead of pypi.python.org)

[12:43:44] <Wooble> pypissh project looks dead... last updated in 2012 and of 2 open issues, 1 is spam from last year that no one noticed and closed.

[12:54:46] <mcepl> hmm, in the end twine upload worked, but it sucks that python setup.py upload doesn't work.

[13:29:29] <Wooble> pypi JSON has a "cheesecake_installability_id": field. What's a cheesecake, and is it as delicious as it sounds?

[13:30:23] <Wooble> I'm guessing it's not "A FM transmitter for iPhone that really works!" :)

[13:31:17] <Wooble> uh, this may be a blog that stole the domain name of a python thing that was linked from stack overflow :)

[14:43:26] <mcepl> Wooble: originally PyPI was called Cheese Shop in honor of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3KBuQHHKx0

[14:47:43] <Wooble> yeah, I know. I just don't know what a cheesecake was or why it's in the pypi metadata :)

[14:49:36] <ngoldbaum> a pastry?

[14:54:28] <Wooble> so this field is intended to tell me which kind of cheesecake to eat while using the module? :)

[15:56:01] <krc4267> utek, tdsmith, it was some strange python bug- nuking the whole thing and reinstalling python (a newer version that actually comes with pip) fixed it

[15:56:13] <krc4267> was running python 3.2

[16:13:41] <utek> krc4267: ah. Thanks

[22:10:35] <[Tritium]> dstufft: which HP do you work for? (i need to decide if i am going to cut HP consumer any slack or not.)