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[11:30:23] <pdobrogost> Hi all!
[11:30:41] <pdobrogost> How does https://github.com/pypa/pkg_resources relate to pkg_resources from setuptools?
[22:45:17] <jaraco> Hi pdobrogost: It’s the same thing, just out of sync and never been released. The intention was to make an independent package once setuptools could depend on it, but that turned out to be infeasible, so it’s a stale effort at this point.
[22:45:53] <jaraco> I do hope one day to revive that effort and resync the codebase and make a proper release, but I’ll only do that if Setuptools can vendor pkg_resources such that there’s one canonical codebase.
[22:45:58] <jaraco> (for pkg_resources)
[23:18:25] <skum> Note: Debian users should use pypi-install from the python-stdeb package instead of pip.
[23:18:28] <skum> can someone explain this to me?