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[14:57:32] <jaraco> @sumanah: pmxbot is back. I’m not sure why it left; the logs on kafka were empty until I restarted it.

[14:57:41] <sumanah> Thank you jaraco

[14:57:51] <sumanah> jaraco: are you the right person to ping when it's down/not in channel?

[14:58:02] <sumanah> jaraco: if you want you could give me relevant privileges

[14:58:03] <jaraco> Yes. I’m pretty much the sole admin on it.

[14:58:08] <jaraco> Yes, good plan.

[14:59:28] <sumanah> also jaraco I recognize I've been pinging you and asking for your feedback, advice, etc. a lot in the last few weeks. If I'm overloading you please let me know

[15:03:05] <jaraco> @sumanah: What’s your preferred username?

[15:03:19] <sumanah> jaraco: sumanah would be great if it's something where I'm logging in over ssh

[15:08:32] <akemot> "pipenv shell" now runs on PowerShell by default, it was cmd before

[15:09:47] <jaraco> !pm akemot

[15:09:48] <pmxbot> Arrggh ye be doin' good work, akemot!

[15:22:13] <jaraco> @sumanah I think you should have access now (https://gist.github.com/6e6f3ffda200c1ccd6fa84528cbe9f18).

[15:23:21] <jaraco> Of course, this gives you access to the secrets held in the config files, so treat with the commensurate respect.

[15:23:41] <jaraco> Use `sudo systemctl restart pmxbot` to restart it (and pmxbot-web for the log viewer.

[15:23:59] <jaraco> Use `sudo journalctl -u pmxbot` to see the logs.

[15:25:07] <jaraco> I’ve also given you write access to https://github.com/dcpython/pmxbot-config, where the non-secret config is maintained and where the deployment fabric is maintained.

[15:26:22] <jaraco> And as for overloading me - I am overloaded, and any help is appreciated, but none is expected. Thanks for all your hard work.

[15:53:18] <sumanah> Sorry I stepped away jaraco -- thank you very much!

[15:53:53] <jaraco> No prob. If you have a second, try out the account and make sure it works.

[20:26:40] <justingoy> hello I'm trying to download a package from pip (elementtree). I can see it in the output of 'pip search elementtree', but when I go to do 'pip download elementtree' or 'pip download ElementTree', I get that no version that satisfies the requirement can be found. What am I doing wrong here?

[20:27:01] <justingoy> I need to download it locally so that I can move it to an airgapped server and install it there

[20:27:14] <sumanah> justingoy: huh. let's look at its PyPI page

[20:27:37] <sumanah> https://pypi.org/project/elementtree/#history

[20:28:05] <sumanah> justingoy: huh. there are no download files associated with this project.

[20:28:12] <sumanah> On PyPI.

[20:28:45] <sumanah> For comparison, here's a project on PyPI that does have download files associated https://pypi.org/project/arrow/#files

[20:29:12] <justingoy> ah, that seems strange then that it is listed on the website

[20:29:19] <justingoy> or is listing that on the website with no download links completely normal?

[20:29:26] <sumanah> justingoy: I see https://pypi.org/project/elementtree/#description links to a download page

[20:29:34] <sumanah> the Project Links include "Download"

[20:30:05] <sumanah> justingoy: could it be that the ElementTree maintainers want you to download their files outside of PyPI?

[20:30:51] <justingoy> that probably makes the most sense

[20:30:54] <justingoy> thanks sumanah

[20:34:46] <ronny> ouch

[20:35:05] <ronny> elementtree has been part of the stdlib since python 2.5 or so - and people should never use it these days

[20:35:53] <ronny> yikes the last release is from 13 years ago

[20:35:57] <sumanah> Yeah.

[20:38:35] <wiggy> just use lxml

[20:39:14] <sumanah> "just" is a dangerous word. :)