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[00:39:00] <FunkyBob> just saw an odd thing... pip install pip==9.0.1 ... yet the end says "Successfully installed pip-9.0.2"

[00:39:11] <FunkyBob> however, pip --version shows 9.0.1...

[00:39:23] <sumanah> That is odd.

[00:39:45] <sumanah> FunkyBob: are you in the same virtualenv or global environment that you were in when you installed pip just now?

[00:40:06] <FunkyBob> pip install --trusted-host {local devpi server} --upgrade --ignore-installed pip==9.0.1 setuptools

[00:40:09] <FunkyBob> was the exact line

[00:40:14] <FunkyBob> global

[00:40:24] <FunkyBob> sumanah: can be... why?

[00:40:48] <FunkyBob> no, wait... was in a virtualenv

[00:40:54] <FunkyBob> [and, sadly, py2.7]

[00:44:32] <FunkyBob> apparently it looks a lot like https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/4400 ...

[00:44:40] <FunkyBob> [my cow-orker did it]

[00:44:52] <sumanah> FunkyBob: thanks for sharing the resolution

[09:46:41] <birdbolt1> hallo

[09:47:20] <birdbolt1> I have only python3 installed by my distro's package manager, and it doesnt include pip

[09:47:54] <birdbolt1> How do I know that their release of pyp in the official repositories works with python 3

[09:48:47] <ThiefMaster> it probably does not include pip because you are not supposed to use pip globally.

[09:48:57] <ThiefMaster> create a virtualenv, and then use the pip available inside the virtualenv

[09:49:47] <birdbolt1> ahh nice, thank you.

[09:51:57] <mgedmin> (there's also pip install --user, and some distros package pip in a separate distro package from python itself)

[15:52:56] <sumanah> I'm not sure how to respond to this person https://twitter.com/jacebrowning/status/974411621509615616 about project names

[15:56:59] <sumanah> !logs

[15:56:59] <pmxbot> http://kafka.dcpython.org/channel/pypa

[15:58:55] <di_codes> sumanah: seems like if we had <https://github.com/pypa/warehouse/issues/1919> we could make that available to users so they could rename their project (as long as it normalized to be the same name)

[15:59:08] <di_codes> it’s not really clear to me _why_ this person needed to rename the project though

[15:59:39] <sumanah> di_codes: I'll ask them to join us and tell us more about their needs

[16:25:07] <EWDurbin> sumanah: could you add something to the channel topic annotating that there are logs

[16:25:13] <sumanah> Yup

[16:25:29] <EWDurbin> ty