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[02:09:38] <pombreda> Can I set the permissions of a file that are inside a wheel? (I think not, since this is a zip)
[02:09:58] <pombreda> *that is inside a wheel
[02:13:03] <pombreda> need to run though I can catch an answer from the logs ;)
[09:38:15] <tos9> wsanchez: I have some code that does that if you're still fighting
[09:39:27] <tos9> wsanchez: https://bpaste.net/show/ba8b1de6af97
[14:20:19] <pombreda> !logs
[14:20:19] <pmxbot> http://kafka.dcpython.org/channel/pypa
[15:43:29] <sumanah> in about 15 minutes, in #pypa-dev the maintainers of the new PyPI pypi.org want to hear about any problems Python package maintainers are having with it, and are holding a livechat/office hour -- the PSF blog post https://pyfound.blogspot.com/2018/03/warehouse-all-new-pypi-is-now-in-beta.html#livechat has more info
[15:43:42] <sumanah> and any issues users are having with it in general, and whether you like it!
[16:05:23] <sumanah> the #pypa-dev livechat about the new Python Package Index has started and will go for the next 55 min
[18:06:38] <mchua> #fedora-mtg
[18:06:43] <mchua> erp, sorry! typo!
[18:06:56] <sumanah> Ha! hi mchua
[18:06:59] <sumanah> :)
[18:34:45] <sumanah> pombreda: Sorry I was busy with another task when you were speaking last
[18:34:51] <sumanah> in #pypa-dev
[18:48:49] <pombreda> :)
[19:11:43] <ztane> HTTP error 403 while getting https://pypi.python.org/pypi
[19:11:43] <ztane> ]
[19:11:43] <ztane> pip._vendor.requests.exceptions.HTTPError: 403 Client Error: Brownout of Legacy TLS for url: https://pypi.python.org/pypi
[19:11:48] <ztane> asking for a friend ;)
[19:12:42] <ztane> so how do you upgrade *pip* now :D
[19:14:26] <ztane> or is it the tls version
[19:16:56] <ztane> (sounds like an epic fail)
[19:18:49] <bitdancer> That's why it's a brownout: to get people to fix their stuff :) My understanding is it is the TLS version, but I'm not an authority on this stuff.
[19:21:46] <ztane> ok so 15 minutes every hour
[19:26:07] <ztane> Fallback to using SecureTransport on macOS when the linked OpenSSL is too old to support TLSv1.2.
[19:26:11] <ztane> nice
[19:31:08] <sumanah> hi ztane
[19:31:23] <sumanah> ztane: what operating system is your friend on?
[19:31:52] <sumanah> ztane: the instructions at https://pyfound.blogspot.com/2018/03/warehouse-all-new-pypi-is-now-in-beta.html#Migrating may help
[19:32:42] <sumanah> ztane: check https://pyfound.blogspot.com/2017/01/time-to-upgrade-your-python-tls-v12.html for more on the TLS timeline
[19:33:02] <sumanah> ztane: also: https://status.python.org/
[19:38:27] <ztane> that'd be OSX Really-Old-TM
[19:38:31] <ztane> the Python is 3.6 though
[19:41:49] <ztane> Lol, it is 10.13.2 High Sierra
[19:42:02] <ztane> I guess the homebrew system builds b0rken pythons
[19:55:05] <sumanah> ztane: homebrew what version?
[19:55:22] <sumanah> ztane: I believe homebrew is in the process of doing something to address a related thing, but am fuzzy on the details
[20:01:04] <ztane> Homebrew 1.5.12
[20:23:03] <ngoldbaum> ztane: are you sure you're using homebrew's pip?
[20:23:14] <ngoldbaum> ztane: the latest pip release will fix this for the system python, FWIW
[20:23:33] <ngoldbaum> ztane: but really you shouldn't use the system python on MacOS because it is terrible
[20:28:32] <ztane> I am sure I am not using homebrew's pip on my Ubuntu. My friend OTOH... :D
[20:29:12] <ngoldbaum> oh shoot, wrong channel :(
[20:29:12] <ngoldbaum> sorry
[20:29:23] <ngoldbaum> i thought this was #machomebrew
[20:29:24] <ngoldbaum> carry on
[20:30:00] <ztane> :D