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[14:51:54] <mgedmin> KTS: https://pip.pypa.io/en/stable/installing/#installing-with-get-pip-py

[14:53:41] <KTS> Thank you! Will try

[15:02:11] <KTS> Alright! Now it works! Thank you guys for helping me out for nooby question...!

[15:39:05] <aspiers> please can someone explain why "pip install git-deps -vvv" is still installing 1.0.0rc1 even though I've uploaded rc2 and it's clearly available via https://pypi.org/simple/git-deps/ ?

[15:39:33] <aspiers> it says "Analyzing links from page https://pypi.org/simple/git-deps/" but only admits to finding rc1

[15:42:38] <aspiers> weird, now it's installing rc2

[16:03:12] <di_codes> aspiers: it’s possible that pip’s local HTTP cache on your machine was not stale enough for it to go out to pypi and get the latest

[16:03:34] <aspiers> di_codes: it magically worked a few minutes later. where does that cache live?

[16:04:39] <di_codes> aspiers: depends on your platform. you can ignore it with `--no-cache-dir`

[16:04:57] <aspiers> di_codes: I would have expected -vvv to show the cache in use, but it didn't

[16:05:20] <di_codes> aspiers: can you share the output with -vvv via bpaste or a gist?

[16:06:10] <aspiers> sadly not unless I can reproduce it

[16:06:32] <di_codes> aspiers: ah, i as assuming it was in your scrollback

[16:06:57] <aspiers> nope, already gone

[16:08:04] <aspiers> ... and of course now it's behaving perfectly

[16:28:13] <bitdancer> That cache constantly causes me problems :( Why doesn't it do HEAD requests or something?

[16:28:33] <aspiers> great question

[16:31:34] <dstufft> bitdancer: it does conditional requests

[16:31:42] <dstufft> it just caches for like 10 minutes before it does that

[16:32:37] <dstufft> largely designed so that ``tox`` with multiple environments doesn't hit PyPI 8 times when we _just_ hit it

[16:44:39] <aspiers> hooray, I just released my first Python module

[16:44:43] <aspiers> https://pypi.org/project/git-deps/

[16:45:04] <aspiers> I'll have to port the README.md to .rst later

[16:45:12] <aspiers> or fix setuptools_markdown

[16:49:07] <bitdancer> The one that gets me is when it says it can't find any version to satisfy a requirement, and I *know* I just uploaded that version to our index. That is a surprise *every* time :)

[16:51:21] <di_codes> congrats aspiers!

[16:51:27] <aspiers> thanks :)

[18:18:19] <kiwi2> Hi folks.. is there a PGP signature or published checksum of https://bootstrap.pypa.io/get-pip.py so I can trust it hasn't been compromised?

[23:47:45] <techalchemy> altendky: around?