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[00:12:02] <toad_polo> At a start:
[00:12:05] <toad_polo> https://github.com/pypa/
[00:13:19] <toad_polo> Bunch of stuff not in the pypa that are also related. Conda, conda-forge, flit, shiv, pex
[14:59:33] <bn_work> hi, does anyone have experience with pip in alpine linux + busybox? I've installed python 2.7.14 via apk but don't seem to have pip? (tried to find it using `which` and `find` but neither seem to work :/)
[15:04:33] <ngoldbaum> maybe try get-pip.py?
[15:12:12] <bn_work> ngoldbaum: thanks, yeah, was going to do that next but was a bit cautious because of the warning on pip's page about not coordinating with OS package managers and not seeing it listed on https://packaging.python.org/guides/installing-using-linux-tools/#installing-pip-setuptools-wheel-with-linux-package-managers , was hoping it was pre-bundled :/
[15:12:54] <ngoldbaum> i have no idea if it is
[15:12:58] <ngoldbaum> i've never used alpine
[15:18:00] <bn_work> it's pretty cool, it's a very small, efficient Linux distro with security as a focus too: https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Main_Page
[15:34:30] <bn_work> ok, got it installed manually
[15:35:19] <bn_work> besides `pip search <package_name>`, is there a way to show more information about a package prior to it being installed?
[15:37:33] <bn_work> (trying to figure out (installed) size of package for example)
[15:38:17] <ngoldbaum> if there's a wheel, the unzipped size of the wheel
[15:38:27] <ngoldbaum> if the package only ships an sdist, no
[17:58:04] <bitdancer> bn_work: apk add py2-pip looks like it would do it. I assume this is for a docker image; otherwise I wouldn't recommend installing pip, I'd use a virtual environment instead (which will install pip in the venv).
[18:03:30] <bn_work> bitdancer: correct