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[12:32:37] <MarkusH> Hey folks, I'm wondering, if I run `pip install --extra-index-url https://example.com -u somebody -p secret some-package`, will the credentials `somebody` and `secret` used for _all_ servers? SO, not just the example.com but also pypi.org?

[14:09:15] <xaocon> We have a local pypi server and we can't seem to get our settings right so that packages available from it are downloaded from it but it doesn't break the install of packages that aren't there. I'm including my latest attempt with pip.conf but we have tried a number of different configurations.

[14:10:30] <tos9> xaocon: With what indx

[14:10:32] <tos9> *index

[14:11:02] <xaocon> https://pastebin.com/p2GGrmeH

[14:11:57] <xaocon> Trying to use pypi.python.org as default and a local artifactory one as extra

[14:18:03] <tos9> Well, for one you never want /simple/

[14:18:26] <tos9> (IMO you never want a pip.conf either :), but it doesn't matter, the settings are the same)

[14:19:01] <tos9> xaocon: But did you try without index-url, and with just an extra-index-url pointing at your artifactory

[14:24:07] <xaocon> yes, that was the first thing we did.

[14:24:31] <tos9> what failed?

[14:25:38] <xaocon> it acted as it does now. it fails at installing future because it's trying to find it on artifactory and gets a 404.

[14:36:46] <tos9> can you get rid of your pip.conf, just run `pip install --extra-index-url <yourartifactory> whateveryou'retryingtoinstall` and show the error

[14:38:53] <xaocon> sure, i'll give that a shot.

[14:38:56] <xaocon> thanks

[14:42:40] <tos9> np

[14:50:21] <xaocon> https://pastebin.com/cRG06GKw

[14:50:51] <tos9> get rid of the /simple on the end

[14:51:03] <tos9> that's what it's complaining about, not that future isn't present in artifactory

[14:51:19] <tos9> the latter message looks more like "couldn't find version for future (versions: )" or something of that sort

[14:52:09] <tos9> that lovely error message means more like "I don't know what you mean by the index URL you gave me, since it doesn't have the interface I'm looking for"

[14:55:30] <mgedmin> oh joy pip install egenix-mx-base fails

[14:56:04] <mgedmin> egenix-mx-base had last release in 2015

[14:56:15] <mgedmin> so it's probably pip or setuptools that broke it?

[14:58:06] <xaocon> yeah, that seemed to do the job

[14:58:07] <mgedmin> ... and yet the source zip has no source files in it (for extension modules, I mean)

[14:58:56] <xaocon> thanks a bunch tos9

[14:59:27] <tos9> np

[14:59:37] <mgedmin> oh what is this fresh hell of a setup.py????

[15:06:47] <jrabbit> jaraco: keep up the good work been using your irc package for a while :)