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[18:09:22] <sumanah> !logs

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[18:10:20] <sumanah> All right! https://pyfound.blogspot.com/2019/05/use-two-factor-auth-to-improve-your.html

[18:10:41] <sumanah> EWDurbin: could I ask you to please add the "pypi" label (tag) to that post?

[18:11:13] <sumanah> Thanks and congrats, EWDurbin dstufft, Dustin who isn't here, William who isn't here, Nicole who isn't here

[18:11:24] <EWDurbin> sumanah: posts updated

[18:11:39] <sumanah> Thanks!

[22:07:04] <tos9> What's happening here -- is pip confused, or is it just showing confused output: https://bpaste.net/show/1be24416ba58

[22:07:22] <tos9> Ignore the big compiling numpy nonsense at the top -- the confusing part is that there's a search of PyPI for pip versions at the bottom of the paste

[22:07:53] <tos9> Is that really happening at the end of the install (searching for updated pip versions) or is the output just confusing, and that happens before the install begins

[22:08:20] <tos9> (I am aware obviously that pip checks for new versions of itself, so just asking about sequencing)

[22:35:15] <toad_polo> tos9: Why do you think it would happen at the beginning?

[22:35:40] <toad_polo> I mean I can see it both ways, but the notification in the non-verbose output is usually at the end.

[23:35:19] <tos9> toad_polo: Hm, I guess I confused it with the message about 2.7 deprecation that happens at the beginning

[23:35:29] <tos9> Since yeah now trying on an old pip, I see that the warning is emitted at the bottom