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[14:25:56] <dstufft> nedbat: both PyPI and TestPyPI used to let you reupload files and delete them, and both stopped supporting them at the same time

[14:26:12] <nedbat> dstufft: i can understand why that is

[14:26:19] <dstufft> TestPyPI is weird

[14:26:25] <nedbat> dstufft: weird how?

[14:26:36] <dstufft> it was originally setup as a staging environment for PyPI, and sort of left up there as a "hey, this is a sandbox you can use to test your own packages too"

[14:26:55] <dstufft> but we don't really use it as a staging enviornment at all anymore

[14:27:11] <dstufft> and it's not actually very good at being a test environment for packagers for a number of reasons

[22:52:49] <MrJones> is there a way to specify --no-build-isolation also for dependencies being installed? e.g. via environment variable?

[22:53:10] <MrJones> when installing via `pip3 install --user --no-build-isolation .` it seems like the dependencies may still be using build isolation

[22:54:08] <MrJones> ah, just found it in google where I failed before right AFTER asking here, lol :D I assume PIP_NO_BUILD_ISOLATION=1 would work? I'll give it a try

[23:51:24] <MrJones> ok so I tried PIP_NO_BUILD_ISOLATION=1 but it still does seem to be using it ("Building wheel for sfxscan (PEP517)" is build isolation, right?)

[23:51:32] <MrJones> is there another env var I need to use to disable it?