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[12:33:46] <pombreda> I have boarded that train too, FWIW. I let the system python be used by the system and I do not care too much for it. And I use pyenv otherwise

[14:14:31] <dolang> yes, that was a good suggestion, thanks. it's what i'm trying out now, too. the nice thing about using system packages (or rather: the PPA) would've been that going from 3.8 RC to release (or other minor releases/fixes for that matter) would've just been an apt upgrade away. i feel like it could've worked if not for the different versions clobbering my .local/bin

[14:16:39] <ngoldbaum> yeah, pyenv handles that too

[14:16:46] <ngoldbaum> no need for pip install --local

[14:16:55] <ngoldbaum> if everything is already in your home directory

[14:17:06] <ngoldbaum> you can also have mutliple pyenv python installs activated simultaneously

[14:17:12] <ngoldbaum> i use that with tox for testing

[14:17:45] <ngoldbaum> and instead of the update being an apt upgrade away it's a pyenv install away

[14:44:08] <dolang> well not quite, looks like they don't have RC builds of 3.8. but from what it looks like so far, i should be able to just do a manual install in the right subfolder :)

[14:46:37] <dolang> ah my bad, they do

[14:46:46] <ngoldbaum> yeah, latest version has rc1