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[15:00:30] <toad_polo> Is anyone able to expand the "Run tests" arrow from this GHA? https://github.com/pganssle/zoneinfo/pull/19/checks?check_run_id=505944240

[15:00:44] <toad_polo> I tried opening in an incognito window but if you aren't logged in you can't expand at all, apparently.

[15:00:55] <tos9> toad_polo: it does that sometimes

[15:01:04] <tos9> toad_polo: the UI for GHA is still ... "behind"

[15:01:12] <toad_polo> Yeah, it's not great.

[15:01:13] <tos9> if you wait till the job proceeds a bit sometimes it starts to work again

[15:01:21] <tos9> sometimes it doesn't though, and then yo uneed to download the logs

[15:01:26] <toad_polo> I think it's timing out.

[15:02:04] <tos9> toad_polo: if you cancel it I think you should be able to download them too

[15:02:13] <toad_polo> Ah, downloading the logs helps.

[15:02:44] <toad_polo> Weirdly, it has succeeded in the logs.

[15:03:40] <toad_polo> It's just broken in the UI for some reason. I guess I should just merge and not wait for the job to "suceed".

[15:03:44] <toad_polo> Strange that it seems to be consistently happening with that one job.

[15:04:55] <toad_polo> Happening in the equivalent job here, too: https://github.com/pganssle/zoneinfo/pull/19/checks?check_run_id=505944240

[15:05:12] <toad_polo> Oh wait, that's the same one.

[15:07:47] <toad_polo> Yeah, same deal on this one... odd: https://github.com/pganssle/zoneinfo/pull/18/checks?check_run_id=505971173

[15:09:13] <tos9> I think the JS in the UI is the "behind" part

[15:09:15] <tos9> not that that helps you

[15:09:42] <tos9> but I think what I've guessed from 0 research and pure truthiness of my gut is that the JS is weak so it freezes e.g. when it tries to load large blobs of output in-memory in the browser or something like that

[15:09:47] <toad_polo> But it's also notupdating the webhook.

[15:11:16] <toad_polo> Oh huh, one of the jobs is failing in some way.

[15:23:07] <toad_polo> Well, that's super weird. For some reason importlib.resources can't find tzdata.zonefile.Africa.Casablanca, but only on Windows.

[15:39:16] <ngoldbaum> time to make an extremely detailed bug report to github

[15:47:09] <toad_polo> Haha, no thanks.

[15:48:59] <toad_polo> I wonder if there's any kind of program with Azure or something where I can get free access to a Windows VM for stuff like this.

[15:50:18] <toad_polo> Maintaining and running a Windows dev environment is not really something I'm interested in, but the debugging cycle involved in running on CI is not great.

[15:50:20] <ngoldbaum> there's a way to get appveyor to give you a remote desktop login if tests fail

[15:50:23] <ngoldbaum> dunno about azure

[15:53:19] <toad_polo> I have never had good luck with that sort of thing for whatever reason. I haven't tried it with Appveyor, though.

[15:55:43] <ngoldbaum> another thing you can do is run the MS edge VM images microsoft provides

[15:55:57] <ngoldbaum> technically you're only supposed to use them for edge development though

[15:56:07] <ngoldbaum> but they're a full windows 10 VM image

[16:00:28] <toad_polo> I'd much rather just have a VPS or VM or something that points to a Windows machine.

[16:00:43] <toad_polo> I imagine there's something like that, I just haven't looked into it too much.

[17:40:48] <toad_polo> Azure apparently gives you some free credits or whatever when you sign up. They request your phone number and credit card, though.

[17:41:01] <toad_polo> I sure do hate this.

[17:42:08] <techalchemy> toad_polo, you can make a windows vm using the 60 day trial images

[17:42:15] <techalchemy> i just did it recently

[17:44:30] <toad_polo> ...

[17:45:32] <ngoldbaum> yeah, just snapshot the VM at the beginning of the 60 days after setting up a dev env

[17:45:37] <ngoldbaum> but sounds like that's not what they want

[18:27:01] <techalchemy> yeah i'm not using it like for my personal fun times desktop...

[19:52:36] <toad_polo> lol wooooow: https://github.com/pganssle/zoneinfo/runs/503438985?check_suite_focus=true

[19:52:57] <toad_polo> Great "passing test" you got there.

[20:45:09] <techalchemy> lol

[20:45:23] <techalchemy> doe sit run in powershell on windows?

[20:56:44] <toad_polo> I have no idea.

[20:56:55] <toad_polo> I think no, though.

[20:57:26] <toad_polo> Anyone know if there's a way to detect if a pytest fixture exists at runtime?

[20:57:47] <toad_polo> I want to write a fallback fixture if it doesn't.

[20:58:21] <toad_polo> `pytest --fixtures` does not work, to be clear, because that's a command line argument.

[21:49:48] <dude-x> pytest --help will show you some commands to list fixtures in use for a particular test