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[01:11:02] <sudocurse> !logs

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[01:22:06] <sudocurse> so i'm having a fun afternoon, ran a brew upgrade and my old openssl and readline version happened to get cleaned out

[01:23:29] <sudocurse> this obviously broke pyenv installs that relied on those, import ssl, some repls for some reason. i tried pyenv uninstall and reinstall, and this worked for fixed versions apparently just fine

[01:23:47] <sudocurse> but because i love fun so much a bunch of my environments are on 3.8-dev

[01:25:14] <sudocurse> in those, can't even pip - ImportError: cannot import name 'open_code' from 'io'

[01:27:02] <toad_polo> sudocurse: I recently had something or another break like that, I just deleted all the environments and uninstalled and reinstalled.

[01:29:32] <sudocurse> i wonder if there's something else i should have done (other than set my default away from a dev version)

[01:57:09] <tos9> sudocurse: I still recommend the "not using pyenv" approach personally

[01:57:17] <tos9> but I am the vast minority at this point :)

[01:59:03] <sudocurse> why's that?

[01:59:54] <tos9> I mean for your case you wouldn't have had this specific issue

[02:00:39] <tos9> More broadly just because I don't want more package managers I want fewer, and homebrew already exists (but I 100% recognize that a ton of people have benefitted from pyenv so props to them certainly)

[02:01:18] <tos9> sudocurse: All of my Pythons though are installed via Homebrew. (PyPy, PyPy3, 3.5, 3.6, 3.7, 3.8)

[02:01:36] <tos9> sudocurse: https://github.com/Julian/dotfiles/blob/master/Brewfile#L49-L53

[02:07:23] <sudocurse> tos9: i don't know much about brew taps but, `brew "julian/tap/python36"` your own repo isn't too much of a pain to maintain?

[02:41:12] <tos9> sudocurse: No, it's just the regular formula essentially, with s/3.7/3.5

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