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#pypa logs for Sunday the 10th of May, 2020
[01:01:57] <abadger1999> pradyunsg: Hey, I am on IRC if you (or anyone else) feels the need to talk about 8214. I'm really busy at work so I might not get to code much on extras during the week but I can usually talk and a bit of non-work weekend coding is always nice.
[01:10:08] <pradyunsg> abadger1999: I'll be able to take a more proper look (instead of the about 10 minutes I spent earlier today) in ~12-15 hours. Would you be around at that time?
[01:11:16] <abadger1999> pradyunsg: I'm in the US, West coast. I should be around at the tail end of that range.
[01:12:20] <abadger1999> And no expectatons on my part. I just wanted to let you know that I'm available to discuss if you want to.
[16:26:36] <toad_polo> pradyunsg and possibly sumanah: any interest in a meeting with some Arch Linux distro maintainers about a way forward on build tools?
[16:26:47] <toad_polo> They seem very upset about being told that `pip` is the supported way forward.
[16:28:13] <toad_polo> Might be good to get Debian or someone else on board. I think they'd be happy if the modular, minimal-required-dependency wheel builder and wheel installer tools existed, which definitely dovetails with my interest in a Unix philosophy ecosystem.
[16:43:58] <pradyunsg> toad_polo: yup yup. I'm definitely interested in talking to both distros, and trying to understand what the gaps in our current toolchain are for them.
[16:45:47] <pradyunsg> I'm not sure what specific approach we'd end up taking, but understanding their use case better is definitely a good step towards improving things.
[16:55:36] <pradyunsg> Although, the meetings with each distro should be separate, both to keep the number of people lower as well as allow for more specific discussions. :)
[16:57:21] <toad_polo> I was hoping to play matchmaker and convince them to build a canonical minimal builder and minimal wheel installer.